JPRS-TAC-93-017

12

August

1993

COMMONWEALTH

OF

INDEPENDENT

STATES

11

Thus,

our

nuclear

weapons

do

not

pose

any

threat

to

other

states.

What

is

more,

we

do

not,

have

not,

and

will

not

set

ourselves

the

task

of

zeroing

them

in

on

a

target.

We

do

not

have

the

technological

capabilities;

nor

do

we

assign

our-

selves

such

a

task.

Thus,

these

nuclear

weapons

of

ours

are

a

legacy

and,

realistically

speaking,

they

cannot

be

reproduced

in

Ukraine.

That

is

to

say,

we

do

not

have

either

the

industry

or

the

technology—to

speak

nothing

of

the

enormous

funds

that

would

be

required

had

such

a

task

been

assigned.

However,

we

do

not

even

set

ourselves

that

task.

Our

course

is

nonnuclear,

and

we

proceed

toward

a

non-

nuclear

Ukraine.

That

is

one

aspect.

The

other

is

that,

indeed,

they

are

now

being

serviced

by

the

same

servicemen

as

those

who

serviced

them

when

there

was

a

Soviet

Union.

I

recently

visited

one

of

the

missile

units;

it

seems

to

me

you

were

there

with

me

and

saw

that

the

technological

level

of

their

servicing

was

quite

high.

It

was

done

with

great

responsibility

by

the

military.

We

settled

a

number

of

organizational,

material,

and

day-to-day

issues

there

concerning

those

people

dealing

directly

with

nuclear

weapons.

We

expressly

decided

there

that

those

nuclear

warheads—the

service

life

span

of

which,

if

I

could

say

so,

is

expiring—will

be

removed

and

transferred

to

appropriate

facilities.

That

is

to

say,

it

is

very

important

that,

regardless

of

how

the

ratification

progresses,

we

will

be

taking

the

war-

heads

off

those

missiles

for

which

the

service

life

span

has

expired

or

run

out

and

will

store

them

at

facilities

on

Ukrainian

territory

that

are

specially

adapted

to

suit

that

purpose.

So,

that

alone

dismisses

any

threat,

since

the

warheads

will

be

removed

from

especially

those

systems,

I

think,

that

were

built

quite

a

long

time

ago,

which

is

130

(?liquid-fuel)

missiles.

Thus,

both

politically

and

in

terms

of

our

course

and

the

capabilities

of

our

industry,

neither

our

policy

nor

our

position

on

these

missiles

poses

any

threat

to

other

states.

This

is

said

by

those

who

want

to

spoil

Ukraine's

image

and

present

the

picture

that

Ukraine

wants

to

profit

from

this,

that

Ukraine

is

supposedly

using

nuclear

weapons

like

a

large

stick

to

intimidate

someone.

Well,

all

of

this

is

insinuations,

insinuations

which

are

based

on

forcing

Ukraine

to

take

a

step

against

its

interests.

But

we

will

not

do

this,

because

we

rely

on

the

legislative

basis,

on

international

principles,

including

the

Vienna

Convention,

incidentally,

which

fixes

succession,

and

we

will

proceed

resolutely

along

the

course

toward

being

a

nonnuclear

state,

only—I

repeat—we

want

the

necessary

steps

to

be

taken

for

Ukraine

both

regarding

its

security

and

regarding

assistance

for

it,

and

regarding

certain

guarantees.

That

is

all;

nothing

else.

There

are

those

who

think

that

these

nuclear

weapons

can

be

utilized

to

make

some

kind

of,

well,

strike

on

some

potential

aggressor.

I

have

already

said

that

this

is

simply

unrealistic

from

the

technical

point

of

view,

but

this

is

not

the

main

thing.

The

main

thing

is

that

we

have

not

set

ourselves

this

task,

we

are

not

setting

it,

and

we

will

not

be

setting

it,

and

that

this

is

a

thread

running

through

all

of

our

documents,

including

the

latest

resolution

by

the

Supreme

Council,

which

I

have

just

quoted

to

you.

Ukraine's

Pavlychko

on

Possible

Ratification

of

START

I

Treaty

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in

Ukrainian

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GMT

30

Jul

93

[Text]

Kiev—In

an

interview

for

the

"HOLOS

UKRAY-

INY"

newspaper,

Dmytro

Pavlychko,

chairman

of

the

Ukrainian

Supreme

Council

Commission

for

Foreign

affairs,

stresses

that

the

transfer

of

strategic

nuclear

weapons

to

Russia

"would

be

a

betrayal

for

which

there

is

no

justification."

He

reports

that

opinion

has

devel-

oped

in

the

Supreme

Council

that

we

should

deal

with

these

weapons

in

such

a

way

so

that

the

Ukrainian

people

get

some

materiel

benefit

from

this.

Dmytro

Pavlychko

believes

that

Ukraine

should

turn

the

right

to

possess

nuclear

weapons

into

guarantees

of

its

own

national

security.

Speaking

about

the

prospects

of

the

Supreme

Council's

examination

of

the

"START

I"

Treaty,

the

Lisbon

Pro-

tocol,

and

the

Nuclear

Non-Proliferation

Treaty,

the

com-

mission

chairman

says

that

"START

I"

will

probably

be

ratified

in

September

or

October

this

year.

The

ratification

of

the

Lisbon

Protocol

is

a

lot

more

complicated,

stresses

the

deputy.

It

can

be

ratified,

but

without

the

fifth

point,

which

says

that

Ukraine

should

accede

to

the

treaty

as

a

non-

nuclear

state.

Ukraine

has

a

partial

[nepovnyy]

nuclear

status.

Without

it

Ukraine

would

simply

not

be

a

part

of

the

"START

I"

Treaty.

In

the

opinion

of

Dmytro

Pavlychko,

the

46

solid

fuel

missiles

should

remain

on

Ukrainian

territory

until

the

Nuclear

Non-

Proliferation

Treaty

is

reviewed

in

1995.

But

even

after

this,

taking

into

account

the

complex

process

of

destroying

warheads

and

missiles,

some

part

of

the

nuclear

weapons

would

still

remain

on

Ukrainian

territory

for

some

time,

notes

D.

Pavlychko.

Pavlychko

Discusses

Nuclear

Weapons,

Fleet

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Prague

CESKY

DENIK

in

Czech

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[C.

Svitak

and

T.

Zahradnicek

report:

"No

One

Is

Inter-

ested

in

Our

Gestures"]

[Text]

Dmytro

Pavlychko,

chairman

of

the

Ukrainian

Parliament

Foreign

Affairs

Committee,

held

talks

in

Prague

recently

with

his

Czech

counterpart,

Jiri

Payne,

and

Deputy

Foreign

Minister

Alexandr

Vondra.

We

took

the

opportunity

to

ask

him

about

the

future

of

nuclear

weapons

in

Ukraine

and

the

fate

of

the

Black

Sea

Fleet.

We

Will

Decide

Ourselves

About

Our

Nuclear

Weapons

The

foreign

policy

concept

approved

by

the

Ukrainian

Parliament

that

declares

the

former

Soviet

nuclear

weapons

deployed

on

Ukrainian

territory

to

be

Ukrainian

property

merely

expands

on

the

legal

norms

adopted

earlier.

On

10

September

1991

we

approved

a

law

making

all

property

situated

on

Ukrainian

territory

belong

to

the

republic.

The

nuclear

weapons

deployed

on

Ukrainian

territory

have

to

have

a

proprietor

who

can

decide

what

will

be

done

with

them.